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Activity Plans - Need an option to select a work team

  • 1.  Activity Plans - Need an option to select a work team

    Posted 08-13-2024 19:21

    Just beginning to play with this new feature and first problem I've noticed is that you cannot select a work team, only a MU or individuals.

    I'd have thought that scheduling for a team would be a must have for this feature...


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    Andrew Doller
    Aioi Nissay Dowa Insurance Australia Pty Ltd
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  • 2.  RE: Activity Plans - Need an option to select a work team

    Posted 08-14-2024 00:55

    Also need confirmation of this feature as it's not applying to scenario's already created (scheduled zero people) but is on a new generation

    • Perform an ad hoc run. You can perform ad hoc runs of the activity plans when you want to include the activity plan to the upcoming schedules.

    On the right corner of the page, click Run Now. The following changes occur:

      • A notification message displays that the activity plan run is in progress followed by a confirmation message that the run is complete.
      • The Activity Plans page displays the Last Run Date column, corresponding to the activity plan, which was being run displays the date on which it was run.
      • The system runs the activity plans as part of the schedule generation process for future occurrences.
      • The system adds the activity plans for the generated schedules for future occurrences and tries to include the activity plan to schedules only except for schedule generation. When a schedule is in the process of being generated, the schedule includes all activity plans in scope and then creates a schedule. For more information about creating work plans and schedules,


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    Fiona Doyle
    Service NSW
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  • 3.  RE: Activity Plans - Need an option to select a work team

    Posted 08-14-2024 01:18

    And a Planning Group level



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    Fiona Doyle
    Service NSW
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  • 4.  RE: Activity Plans - Need an option to select a work team

    Posted 08-15-2024 18:27

    Thanks Fiona, do you mean you would like to include Agents in an Activity Plan based on the Planning Group they are assigned to?



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    Eric Hagaman
    Product Management Director
    Genesys - Employees
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  • 5.  RE: Activity Plans - Need an option to select a work team

    Posted 08-18-2024 18:48

    Yes, for skill based Training etc



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    Fiona Doyle
    Service NSW
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  • 6.  RE: Activity Plans - Need an option to select a work team

    Posted 08-15-2024 01:48

    Hi Fiona, I had a play with this feature last night and successfully ran a few activities on published schedules with no problem.

    When you refer to scenarios, are you referring to unpublished, already generated schedule builds that have not been published?

    If so, you just answered something our team were going to test and hope for. 



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    Christopher Koot
    Woolworths Group Limited
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  • 7.  RE: Activity Plans - Need an option to select a work team

    Posted 08-15-2024 01:57

    Hi Christopher, it was unpublished periods that we were trying to put some training into. Worked when we generated a schedule run, but not in an unpublished with the adhoc rules. We haven't tried a published one yet as we had no need. We were hoping for it to be available



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    Fiona Doyle
    Service NSW
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  • 8.  RE: Activity Plans - Need an option to select a work team

    Posted 08-15-2024 06:47

    I seem to have the opposite issue.  I am able to apply to published schedules, but on every occasion tested, it is not generating the activity on the schedules at schedule generation stage. It generates the Work Plan and there is no activity 'blocking' the generation of the activity plan such as breaks or lunches, but nothing appears.

    Have I misunderstood the required steps?

    Use the Generate Schedule option.

    • Generate Schedule performs the run of the activity plans in all the schedules.

    Thanks, Heather



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    Heather Henderson
    Admiral Group Plc
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  • 9.  RE: Activity Plans - Need an option to select a work team

    Posted 08-15-2024 18:43

    Thanks for exploring this new feature Heather.  I would check that the 'Rule is active' toggle is enabled on the rule that you successfully ran ad hoc, and also ensure no obvious limitations exist, for example if you added specific days to the Session Availability which are not in the date range of the schedule you are trying to generate.  Suggest you create a care ticket for us to work with you in more detail if that does not help.



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    Eric Hagaman
    Product Management Director
    Genesys - Employees
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  • 10.  RE: Activity Plans - Need an option to select a work team

    Posted 08-16-2024 03:28

    Thanks Eric. The rule is definitely active. 

    Can I just check the second part of this before I raise a ticket please? This is a team meeting that happens every week at a specific time, and I have it set to run until the end of October. My expectation is that when I generate a schedule each week up until then, the team meeting will be on shifts for all those who are on shift at that time (i.e.) those with time off, or those who get assigned a flexible rotaed day off for Saturday would not get the team meeting.

    Does that match your expectation?

    Many thanks for your response, and I am loving the feature and the comments about future development.



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    Heather Henderson
    Admiral Group Plc
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  • 11.  RE: Activity Plans - Need an option to select a work team

    Posted 08-15-2024 18:31

    Fiona, if the Activity Plan is configured as 'Rule is Active' toggle enabled, and the configuration of the plan allows for generation of Activities, it will be executed along with your next schedule generation.   There are situations where you can configure a plan such that it does not have any space to create activities - for example if the service level overrides do not allow it, or the recurrence pattern is configured to end on a date prior to the days included in the generate schedule step.  If you would like some more help, please consider raising a care ticket for us to work through the possibilities with you.



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    Eric Hagaman
    Product Management Director
    Genesys - Employees
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  • 12.  RE: Activity Plans - Need an option to select a work team

    Posted 08-14-2024 03:39

    100% agree with this comment/request. Happy to see the function there this morning, however, the first thing I went to use is to book weekly team meetings, and as per above - no option to select work team. PLEASE PLEASE can we have this added asap - thank you



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    Donna Cockrell
    Northumbrian Water
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  • 13.  RE: Activity Plans - Need an option to select a work team

    Posted 08-14-2024 04:36

    If possible we would also like to have the option to delete plans, not just have them as inactive. Plus also have the name of the person who set up the plan (and date/time) - these would all be very helpful. Thanks again



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    Donna Cockrell
    Northumbrian Water
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  • 14.  RE: Activity Plans - Need an option to select a work team

    Posted 08-15-2024 13:48

    Couldn't agree more Donna C.  Initially we are testing trying different scenarios and I certainly don't want to keep any of these Activity Plans that are just crazy scenarios we tried.  It seems to be a basic function to allow users to delete unnecessary ones rather than just "hiding" in inactive.  



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    Tom Magness
    Johnson & Johnson Services, Inc.
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  • 15.  RE: Activity Plans - Need an option to select a work team

    Posted 08-22-2024 11:27

    would be good for the description field to populate on the schedules too. It appears empty in schedules so Advisors don't know what the offline activity is regarding.



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    Mike Corley
    Benenden Healthcare
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  • 16.  RE: Activity Plans - Need an option to select a work team

    Posted 08-15-2024 18:32

    Thanks Donna - sounds like Work Team is your top priority for additional agent inclusion criteria, any other types of criteria you would find useful?  



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    Eric Hagaman
    Product Management Director
    Genesys - Employees
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  • 17.  RE: Activity Plans - Need an option to select a work team

    Posted 08-15-2024 01:34

    Some others enhancements I'd love to see:

    • Breaks moved (within workplan limitations) rather than failing to roster where there is a conflict?
    • Or an option to overwrite breaks and we could add them back with a reschedule?
    • or a 'wrap around', e.g. I ask for a 1hr task from 1pm, agent has 15 min break at 1.30pm, so it automatically rosters 30min 1pm-1:30pm, then 30min 1:45-2:15pm. 
    • Clarity around how the activities are distributed, or an equity option i.e. I requested a team of 13 do 19hrs of an off queue task per week over 3 weeks - 1 agent got 1 hour, 1got 2 hours, 5 agents got 4 hours, and the rest more than 5hrs.  Fixing this more or less wipes any efficiency gains from automated rostering.
    • The activity selector matching the one in Schedules/Workplans more closely - the activities are not even in alphabetical order making it hard to find the correct one.
    • Options for On Queue activity types 


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    Tom Cook
    Woolworths Group Limited
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  • 18.  RE: Activity Plans - Need an option to select a work team

    Posted 08-15-2024 21:21

    Thanks for the feedback Tom, some interesting suggestions there:

    • Allowing activities to replace or overlap certain types of other activities such as breaks or meals, then place those obscured activities somewhere else in the shift?
    • Automatic splitting of the new activity being placed around an existing break (opposite of the first suggestion, instead of obscuring a break, the break acts like a 'knife' cutting the incoming activity into parts?)
    • Sounds like you are thinking of a 'all attendees must have equal amount of hours' concept- are you planning for a certain type of work or unrouted type of project work?  I can let you know we are researching a 'block scheduling' concept which would allow you to plan for certain types of work at certain times of day for certain agents and enable automatic work routing changes to obey the planned on-queue activity types in WFM.  Definitely a larger/separate topic.
    • Thanks for the suggestion on the Activity Drop Down code list order
    • On Queue activities - see about this is our goal for a future feature we are researching at the moment.


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    Eric Hagaman
    Product Management Director
    Genesys - Employees
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  • 19.  RE: Activity Plans - Need an option to select a work team

    Posted 08-16-2024 01:56

    Hi Andrew, can provide an example to illustrate:

    We have a regular off queue task called Refunds. We need to roster around 100hr pw, but does not matter which day, what time, or how long each stint on it is per agent as long as the task is achieved. Service remains priority, so when manually assigning we tend to roster it around our quiet times and off weekends. 

    We wouldn't mind if 1 agent was rostered for a full 8 hr shift, and another 1 hr here and 3 hrs there same day around desk needs, as long as we could be sure all 100 hrs were rostered. 

    The agents trained for this task are spread across ~20 work teams so we currently use a Language to track them, but any other method would be acceptable too. 

    To speak to the equity - our agents love off queue tasks, so for both fairness and to ensure we are able to assess if all of them are doing a reasonably good job on the off queue task (not just having a lil holiday) we would like options to ensure the off queue time was distributed evenly where possible. 

    The activity drop down and On Queue options will also be welcome QOL improvements, so looking forward to those! 

    Our organisation has at least a dozen off queue tasks across a couple of campaigns, all with unique requirements, so please don't hesitate to reach out for any beta testing opportunities for future versions.



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    Tom Cook
    Woolworths Group Limited
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  • 20.  RE: Activity Plans - Need an option to select a work team

    Posted 08-19-2024 04:09
    • Allowing activities to replace or overlap certain types of other activities such as breaks or meals, then place those obscured activities somewhere else in the shift?
    • Automatic splitting of the new activity being placed around an existing break (opposite of the first suggestion, instead of obscuring a break, the break acts like a 'knife' cutting the incoming activity into parts?)

    To speak to both, I'll give an example. A common off queue activity we have is Refunds. This task has no particular SLA as long as they are done eventually, and doesn't matter what time of day or day of week it is achieved, as long as we roster 100 hours of it per week. Ideally I would be able to simply ask the Activity Planner "set 100 hours of this through the week at best time for coverage" and if decides to do 1 person a full 8hour shift on Tuesday, and another person 1 hr here, 3 hours here on Thursday, with breaks moved around as required, then we can 'set and forget' instead of a couple hours a week trying to work out best way of rostering it adhoc. 

    Additionally, the way we currently check who is Refunds trained is checking the Language we set up, as they are distributed across ~20 work teams in their Division. Another method like Groups or similar would be welcome too. 

    • Sounds like you are thinking of a 'all attendees must have equal amount of hours' concept- are you planning for a certain type of work or unrouted type of project work?  I can let you know we are researching a 'block scheduling' concept which would allow you to plan for certain types of work at certain times of day for certain agents and enable automatic work routing changes to obey the planned on-queue activity types in WFM.  Definitely a larger/separate topic.

    Related to above-  agents obviously love off queue tasks, so distributing them equitably is desirable both from a fairness point of view, and to allow us to accurately track who is doing a decent job on it and who is taking a lil holiday. Very keen to explore 'block scheduling' as it rolls out - please feel free to reach out to discuss beta testing as we have at least a dozen very different off queue use cases across the organisation that will be good for testing this! 

    • Thanks for the suggestion on the Activity Drop Down code list order

    Just a QOL improvement but a very welcome one! 

    • On Queue activities - see about this is our goal for a future feature we are researching at the moment.

    As above! 



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    Tom Cook
    Woolworths Group Limited
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  • 21.  RE: Activity Plans - Need an option to select a work team

    Posted 09-02-2024 07:18

    Just revisiting this thread with a few more things from using the tool for a couple of weeks.

    1. The field labelled "Description" on the activity plan does not fill the field labeled "Description" on the actual activity on the agents' rosters. Where we are using it to do things like assign specific e-learning modules, or attend certain meetings, we need to manually update those, reducing the efficiency gains significantly. Additional activity types are not a workaround, the bloat of 100+ new codes would not work for us. 
    2. It's sometime hard to understand WHY an activity plan fails. For example, I tried to set a plan to roster a 15min huddle at either start or end of day and it only rostered about half of the sessions I anticipated. If I could understand WHY it failed "service would reduce too much", "not compatible with workplans feature X", "other issue Y" etc I would also be able to feedback to stakeholders about why the plan failed and speak more to alternative options.
    3. A 'dry run' option would also help us future plan, i.e. "if you pressed go now we would roster 10 sessions Monday, 12 Tuesday etc and meet X service reduction targets". I currently need to assign 100% of agents on a desk a fairly long e-learning module, and being able to say 'doing it over 3 weeks would reduce service by THIS but doing it over 2 weeks would reduce it by THAT' enables me to make better recommendations to my stakeholders. 



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    Tom Cook
    Woolworths Group Limited
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  • 22.  RE: Activity Plans - Need an option to select a work team

    Posted 08-15-2024 18:26

    Hello Andrew, glad you are exploring this new feature.  We are definitely planning on enhanced agent selection criteria in the future and love to hear what would be most valuable.  Is Work Team your top choice?  Any other criteria you would find useful for agent inclusion in an Activity Plan?



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    Eric Hagaman
    Product Management Director
    Genesys - Employees
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  • 23.  RE: Activity Plans - Need an option to select a work team

    Posted 08-15-2024 19:00

    Hi Eric,

    Yep Work Team would be number 1 by far. 

    I mentioned in another thread using Languages to further filter agents by type of contract they are on, or certain upskill trainings they have that do not affect planning groups - these would also be super useful agent filters for assigning various off queue tasks to these agents. 

    Please reach out if any further information required! 



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    Tom Cook
    Woolworths Group Limited
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  • 24.  RE: Activity Plans - Need an option to select a work team

    Posted 08-15-2024 19:03

    Hi Eric

    Personally the work teams is my highest priority, but I agree with all the other comments above as well. 

    At this stage i like the idea of the feature, but it's drawbacks prevent me from using it fully at the moment. The moving breaks option is also a big issue - or at least an indication of where the scheduling has failed so that I know which one may need manual intervention.

    Another problem I have is that to test the feature I have to run it on live schedules - and when I do the agents get notified that their schedules have been changed so I have to run tests outside of hours so as not to annoy the agents.



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    Andrew Doller
    Aioi Nissay Dowa Insurance Australia Pty Ltd
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  • 25.  RE: Activity Plans - Need an option to select a work team

    Posted 08-20-2024 02:16

    Hi Eric

    Work Team would definitely be a good thing to have implemented. But, we need the ability to select employees associated with a specific queue/skill.

    A short example. If we say we have 10 different skills (In fact, we have many more). Sometimes employees associated with 1 or 2 of the 10 skills must have a training session, then I need to be able to select everyone with these specific skills. At other times, it may be employees associated with either skill 1, 2 or 3 of the 10 skills that must be booked in.

    Hope the above makes sense, otherwise feel free to reach out to me.



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    Martin Grau
    mug@yousee.dk
    Nuuday A/S
    Denmark
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