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Skilling - Is anyone dealing w the need for more than the 0 to 5 star skill levels? How have you approached this challenge?

  • 1.  Skilling - Is anyone dealing w the need for more than the 0 to 5 star skill levels? How have you approached this challenge?

    Posted 08-21-2024 15:23

    Hi all,

    We are migrating from Genesys PureConnect to Genesys Cloud FedRAMP. Within PureConnect, we could set skill levels from 1-100 for agents or workgroups. Within Genesys Cloud we have the 5 star system and appears we have 0 to 5 for available skill levels, so 6 total. Quite the difference. With that said, we actually have a need for more than 10 skill levels as we have one customer that has more than 10 queues and they want to be able to stagger agents skilling for each queue, but since we're limited, we cannot do this w skill rating alone.

    I found an idea linked below that requested additional skill level settings. 

    Question for the board, are any of you running into the need for more than the 0-5 star rating system for skilling? If so, how are you dealing with that scenario? Are you combining priority with skill to give more options or maybe stacking skills? Curious what approaches you have tried.

    Thanks in advance!

    https://genesyscloud.ideas.aha.io/ideas/INB-I-731


    #ArchitectureandDesign
    #Roadmap/NewFeatures
    #Routing(ACD/IVR)
    #SystemAdministration

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    Shane
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  • 2.  RE: Skilling - Is anyone dealing w the need for more than the 0 to 5 star skill levels? How have you approached this challenge?

    Posted 08-27-2024 00:15

    No, we haven't come across such requirements, 0 to 5 Ratings are enough in CC 



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    Kathiravan Srinivasan
    Hewlett-Packard Enterprise
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  • 3.  RE: Skilling - Is anyone dealing w the need for more than the 0 to 5 star skill levels? How have you approached this challenge?

    Posted 08-27-2024 02:01

    I think 0-5 is sufficient, you can also adjust by applying skills using bullseye routing or via architect if additional settings are required.



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    Adrian Bradshaw
    Auto Trader Limited
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  • 4.  RE: Skilling - Is anyone dealing w the need for more than the 0 to 5 star skill levels? How have you approached this challenge?

    Posted 08-27-2024 00:33

    Yes, some people address the challenge of needing skills beyond the 0 to 5-star rating by focusing on continuous learning and development. They often use a combination of advanced training, practical experience, and mentorship to improve their skills. Additionally, setting specific goals and regularly evaluating progress can help in achieving higher levels of proficiency.



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    Suryavesh Sahani
    Enbridge Gas Inc.
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  • 5.  RE: Skilling - Is anyone dealing w the need for more than the 0 to 5 star skill levels? How have you approached this challenge?

    Posted 08-27-2024 03:35

    For our org, 1-5 is sufficient but I can see why some would need more breadth



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    Tim Speakman
    Auto Trader Limited
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  • 6.  RE: Skilling - Is anyone dealing w the need for more than the 0 to 5 star skill levels? How have you approached this challenge?

    Posted 08-27-2024 05:22

    We haven't encountered this issue but I am curious as to what others think on the issue



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    Richard Tucker
    Ovo Energy Ltd
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  • 7.  RE: Skilling - Is anyone dealing w the need for more than the 0 to 5 star skill levels? How have you approached this challenge?

    Posted 08-27-2024 05:26

    for us the 1-5 star system is sufficient, but I understand why others might need more flexibility to accommodate more complex skilling requirements. It's interesting to see how different approaches, like combining skills or using routing strategies, can help address these needs.



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    Matt Calton
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  • 8.  RE: Skilling - Is anyone dealing w the need for more than the 0 to 5 star skill levels? How have you approached this challenge?

    Posted 08-27-2024 08:17

    Coming from an Avaya system recently and having used it on both sides, I do miss seeing the flexibility for the business. While we didn't use the full range of 1-16 with Avaya, we would put people on a level 16 to indicate that while they could assist with the queue, they knew they were a last resort. Typically we'd do this if we wanted them working on off phone work, but still available to take a call if a queue got really busy. 

    That being said, I'm not sure if 1-100 is needed, but I could see a rating system of 1-20 to offer some flexibility with skilling. I'll definitely vote on the idea though.



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    Seean Weaver
    MAPFRE USA - Telecom Analyst
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  • 9.  RE: Skilling - Is anyone dealing w the need for more than the 0 to 5 star skill levels? How have you approached this challenge?

    Posted 08-27-2024 10:04

    Haven't came like this requirement



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    Gupta Kg
    PepsiCo Inc.
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  • 10.  RE: Skilling - Is anyone dealing w the need for more than the 0 to 5 star skill levels? How have you approached this challenge?

    Posted 08-27-2024 10:37

    Skills of 0-5 seem to be sufficient for us. As we grow our product base and skill set, there may be a need for skills beyond 5.



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    Heena Patel
    SAGE GLOBAL SERVICES LIMITED
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  • 11.  RE: Skilling - Is anyone dealing w the need for more than the 0 to 5 star skill levels? How have you approached this challenge?

    Posted 08-27-2024 10:37

    Our organization has found the 0 to 5 rating sufficient but do also supplement with bullseye routing as needed. 



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    Patience Thomas
    CLEAResult Consulting Inc.
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  • 12.  RE: Skilling - Is anyone dealing w the need for more than the 0 to 5 star skill levels? How have you approached this challenge?

    Posted 08-27-2024 11:16

    The 0-5 skilling is sufficient, you can also adjust priority in the queues and use bullseye routing if additional settings are required.



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    Robert Gacula
    American Specialty Health
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  • 13.  RE: Skilling - Is anyone dealing w the need for more than the 0 to 5 star skill levels? How have you approached this challenge?

    Posted 08-27-2024 11:47

    The 0-5 rating works great for my team. What would be helpful would be seeing/changing star levels while looking at the members of a queue or group. Either that or being able to run a report showing agents and their star levels for skills. 



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    James Rowberry
    Northwestel, Inc.
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  • 14.  RE: Skilling - Is anyone dealing w the need for more than the 0 to 5 star skill levels? How have you approached this challenge?
    Best Answer

    Posted 08-27-2024 12:51

    Explore various alternative approach:

    1. Skill Matrices: These matrices use a combination of skill levels and proficiency indicators to provide a more detailed assessment. For example, a skill might be rated as "Beginner," "Intermediate," or "Advanced," and then further categorized based on specific tasks or competencies.
    2. Competency Frameworks: These frameworks define specific competencies or behaviors that are essential for a particular role or function. By assessing an individual's proficiency in these competencies, organizations can gain a more comprehensive understanding of their skills.
    3. Portfolio-Based Assessments: This approach focuses on an individual's work products or projects rather than solely on self-reported ratings. By reviewing portfolios, organizations can assess skills in a more objective and context-specific manner.
    4. Continuous Learning and Development: Encouraging a culture of continuous learning and development can help individuals improve their skills over time and provide opportunities for more frequent assessments.
    5. Peer Reviews and Feedback: Peer reviews and feedback can provide valuable insights into an individual's skills and areas for improvement.


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    Setu Shah
    Tech Mahindra (Americas) Inc.
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  • 15.  RE: Skilling - Is anyone dealing w the need for more than the 0 to 5 star skill levels? How have you approached this challenge?

    Posted 08-28-2024 01:13

    Yes, we're handling it by using a range of skill levels beyond 0 to 5 stars and tailoring training to meet more specific needs.



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    Eajay Mogol
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  • 16.  RE: Skilling - Is anyone dealing w the need for more than the 0 to 5 star skill levels? How have you approached this challenge?

    Posted 08-28-2024 01:13

    Yes, we're handling it by using a range of skill levels beyond 0 to 5 stars and tailoring training to meet more specific needs.



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    Eajay Mogol
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  • 17.  RE: Skilling - Is anyone dealing w the need for more than the 0 to 5 star skill levels? How have you approached this challenge?

    Posted 08-28-2024 02:21

    How far apart are the 6 different skilllevels?
    If you have a small group of users (say 15) 

    5 of them have a 5 star skill

    10 of them have a zero star skill

    With BullsEye routing we used 2 skill expressiongroups 
    ring 1  with 5 star users 
    ring 2  (after 30 seconds) with zero star users

    And lets pretend that most of the time there are less then 5 calls at once.

    How 'soon' wil one of the zero star skilled users get the next call? 

    Does a zero star user build up points for being idle on-queue for a long time? 



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    Thijs de Laat
    Netherlands
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  • 18.  RE: Skilling - Is anyone dealing w the need for more than the 0 to 5 star skill levels? How have you approached this challenge?

    Posted 08-28-2024 03:31

    I agree with all of the comments, 0-5 is more than enough.  We use 0 as overflow and generally start in the middle with a default of 3 which gives scope to move up and down other agents.  We migrated from Avaya and Callmedia and then pure connect where there was too much flexibility really.  This has simplified skilling without any negative impact, I would say its more positive 



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    Andy Jackson
    Ten Lifestyle Management Limited
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  • 19.  RE: Skilling - Is anyone dealing w the need for more than the 0 to 5 star skill levels? How have you approached this challenge?

    Posted 08-28-2024 03:43

    Hi,
    We haven't came across the skilling that needs more than 5 stars. The segregation is handled by creating more diverse skills etc.

    Thanks



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    Ashiesh Sharma
    BT plc
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  • 20.  RE: Skilling - Is anyone dealing w the need for more than the 0 to 5 star skill levels? How have you approached this challenge?

    Posted 08-28-2024 03:50

    I would create more skills, then set priority on the DNIS or ? in your flow or however its built (we use tables), we have 600 inbound DNIS, 400 email, 400 chat, 50 WhatsApp across a global estate and manage quite easily with 0-5, we have a lot of skills  and very few queues 



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    Andy Jackson
    Ten Lifestyle Management Limited
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  • 21.  RE: Skilling - Is anyone dealing w the need for more than the 0 to 5 star skill levels? How have you approached this challenge?

    Posted 08-28-2024 11:52

    We aligned our scoring with Qualtrics and the NPS scoring.  They use 1-5.  Makes it much easier and cleaner to go with 1-5 in my opinion.



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    Aaron Becraft
    Travelpass Group, Inc
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  • 22.  RE: Skilling - Is anyone dealing w the need for more than the 0 to 5 star skill levels? How have you approached this challenge?

    Posted 08-30-2024 15:08

    I agree with others 0-5 is sufficient, no need to go beyond this.. 



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    Senih Demren
    Insurance Corporation of British Co
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  • 23.  RE: Skilling - Is anyone dealing w the need for more than the 0 to 5 star skill levels? How have you approached this challenge?

    Posted 09-03-2024 09:36

    Hi, in our on prem setup of Genesys Engage we also used skill level in the range of 0 to around 20.. In the first attempt we were struggling to map this idea into Genesys Cloud. Some smart and challenging brains guided us into the standards - which for us is the Bullseye routing in combination with skill expression groups. Instead of have 7+ skill level you might wanna define as many groups as needed instead. This also mitigated another problem we were facing which is the missing OR expressing in skill based routing. Right now we are preparing the full implementation, so still work in progress. But we believe we can live with a 5 star schema now. Hope that helps :)



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    Daniel Possekel
    Vattenfall GmbH
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  • 24.  RE: Skilling - Is anyone dealing w the need for more than the 0 to 5 star skill levels? How have you approached this challenge?

    Posted 09-04-2024 08:26

    For our organization, we have only utilized skill levels 1 through 5.  This seems to be sufficient for our needs.



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    Kris Charles
    Owens Corning Sales, LLC.
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  • 25.  RE: Skilling - Is anyone dealing w the need for more than the 0 to 5 star skill levels? How have you approached this challenge?

    Posted 09-05-2024 09:50
    1. Skill Matrices: These matrices use a combination of skill levels and proficiency indicators to provide a more detailed assessment. For example, a skill might be rated as "Beginner," "Intermediate," or "Advanced," and then further categorized based on specific tasks or competencies.


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    Fernando Rivera
    Becton Dickinson and Company
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  • 26.  RE: Skilling - Is anyone dealing w the need for more than the 0 to 5 star skill levels? How have you approached this challenge?

    Posted 09-05-2024 09:51
    1. Skill Matrices: These matrices use a combination of skill levels and proficiency indicators to provide a more detailed assessment. For example, a skill might be rated as "Beginner," "Intermediate," or "Advanced," and then further categorized based on specific tasks or competencies.


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    Fernando Rivera
    Becton Dickinson and Company
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  • 27.  RE: Skilling - Is anyone dealing w the need for more than the 0 to 5 star skill levels? How have you approached this challenge?

    Posted 09-06-2024 13:36

    haven't seen any issues so far with the 0-5



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    Susanna Tem
    Voya Services Company
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