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  • 1.  Communications between Edge Premise and Edges Cloud

    Posted 03-08-2024 04:47

    Good morning experts,

    We are going to begin the implementation of a hybrid architecture in which we have physical Edge and virtual Edge. Agents use the inin purecloud Softphone (not webrtc), therefore we have to maintain physical Edges.

    Our idea is that the client's call is managed in the virtual edges, and, when it comes to the agent queue, it passes to the physical edge, and from there to the Softphone.

    Is this architecture possible? What type of communications should be opened in this implementation? Is direct communication between physical and virtual edges necessary, or is it possible to put an SBC in between?

    Thank you


    #ArchitectureandDesign
    #Telephony

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    David Fradejas Tomás
    Sabio Ibérica, S.A.
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  • 2.  RE: Communications between Edge Premise and Edges Cloud

    Posted 03-08-2024 13:37

    It might behoove you to consider moving your agents to GC WebRTC and just use remote stations on PC to connect over to GC and to the agent.  This would get you moving off the local edges which is what you should consider sooner rather than later.  There is not much need for them these days.   



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    Robert Wakefield-Carl
    ttec Digital
    Sr. Director - Innovation Architects
    Robert.WC@ttecdigital.com
    https://www.ttecDigital.com
    https://RobertWC.Blogspot.com
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  • 3.  RE: Communications between Edge Premise and Edges Cloud

    Posted 03-08-2024 18:35

    In banking sector, security is a must, and that's why i was asking if this architecture is possible without webrtc.



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    David Fradejas Tomás
    Sabio Ibérica, S.A.
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  • 4.  RE: Communications between Edge Premise and Edges Cloud

    Posted 03-08-2024 21:07

    Understood.  The security in the GCx is probably much more than can happen locally.  You have TLS to the desktop (WebRTC or Poly Phone) and you can add SRTP to secure all voice traffic.  Also, with the direct media to the cloud and the OPUS codec, you can expect better connectivity and fewer voice quality issues. I never really liked the PureConnect solution for WebRTC and the way the link was done to Genesys Cloud.  What are your plans to move to the cloud fully?

    Anyway, yes Hybric works, but unfortunately, I don't know if your Softphone ORG can handle it.  @Alan Lanteigne or @David Van Milligan, can these PC ORGs be in a Hybrid configuation?



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    Robert Wakefield-Carl
    ttec Digital
    Sr. Director - Innovation Architects
    Robert.WC@ttecdigital.com
    https://www.ttecDigital.com
    https://RobertWC.Blogspot.com
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  • 5.  RE: Communications between Edge Premise and Edges Cloud

    GENESYS
    Posted 03-11-2024 12:11

    Converting to a Hybrid organization involves setting up Site Links which connect the on-premises edges to the cloud edges.

    https://help.mypurecloud.com/faqs/what-are-site-links/

    https://help.mypurecloud.com/articles/convert-byoc-premises-to-hybrid-media/#SiteLinksSection

    I'll run a test in my org to be sure it still works



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    George Ganahl GCP, GCSME, ICCE, ICHD, etc.
    Senior Principal PS Consultant
    Genesys
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  • 6.  RE: Communications between Edge Premise and Edges Cloud

    Posted 03-11-2024 12:56

    Thanks a lot @George Ganahl!! 

    My main concern/idea is that the customer's call was managed in the virtual edges, and, when it comes to the agent queue, it passes to the physical edge, and from there to the Softphone....so it seems the SIP INVITE need to travel between cloud edges to premise...I guess using Site Links as you mention above, is that correct?

    Thanks!!



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    David Fradejas Tomás
    Sabio Ibérica, S.A.
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  • 7.  RE: Communications between Edge Premise and Edges Cloud
    Best Answer

    GENESYS
    Posted 03-11-2024 13:19

    Via those site links, yes.

    Another view (though for WebRTC)

    https://help.mypurecloud.com/articles/hybrid-media-overview/



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    George Ganahl GCP, GCSME, ICCE, ICHD, etc.
    Senior Principal PS Consultant
    Genesys
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  • 8.  RE: Communications between Edge Premise and Edges Cloud

    Posted 2 days ago
    Edited by David Fradejas Tomás 2 days ago

    I apologise for bringing up this thread again, I hope you can help me again.

    It is clear to me that the connection between the Edges Premises and the Edges Cloud must be done on the site links (Thanks @George Ganahl ), but the edges premises are behind a Customer FIREWALL, therefore, the client requests to know that opening of ports and communications must be opened so that the communication via WAN between the Edges Cloud and the Edges premise, can be established in a satisfactory way. 

    Another point I would like to clarify is this use case:  imagine that a call is delivered to a Edge Premise, and we need to send the call to WebRTC Agent....do we need to open all the ports/communications for webrtc for that Premises Edge? or, in hybrid media mode,  the call is delivered to a Cloud Edge first, and then go to the Agent?

    Is so, we just only need to open the ports/communications for the connection between Premises and Cloud Edges...let me show you the figure in the transition scenario: 

    As you can see in the model, in the current environment we have calls progressing from a Genesys Engage environment through GVP. When the call needs to be routed to an agent, a trunk is used between the GVP and Genesys Cloud, and the call ends up at Agent Softphone(ININ PureCloud Softphone). What we are looking for is that, during the transition phase, Edge Premises and Edge Virtual can coexist, and at the same time we can have webrtc agents and agents with Softphone. 
    The final picture will be only virtual edges, and webrtc agents.

    Thanks in advance!!!!!



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    David Fradejas Tomás
    Sabio Ibérica, S.A.
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  • 9.  RE: Communications between Edge Premise and Edges Cloud

    GENESYS
    Posted 2 days ago

    The edge(s) involved in a call going to a WebRTC phone depends on which edge the phone is registered to.

    All WebRTC signaling traffic goes through the internet due to the translation servers needed (WebRTC <=> SIP), but media can go direct to a premises edge if the WebRTC phone is on the same network.

    https://help.mypurecloud.com/articles/webrtc-call-flow/

    https://help.mypurecloud.com/articles/detailed-webrtc-diagram/

    Ports that need to be opened are listed in the Resource Center:

    https://help.mypurecloud.com/articles/ports-and-services-for-edge-devices-under-byoc-premises/

    https://help.mypurecloud.com/articles/ports-and-services-for-webrtc-phones-under-byoc-premises/



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    George Ganahl GCP, GCSME, ICCE, ICHD, etc.
    Senior Principal PS Consultant
    Genesys
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  • 10.  RE: Communications between Edge Premise and Edges Cloud

    Posted 2 days ago
    Thank you @George Ganahl !!
     
    Precisely what we want to avoid is a direct WebRTC communication between an Edge Premise and an agent station, for which, if I understand you correctly, we must register all the webrtc stations in the SITE of PureCloud Voice - AWS.
    On the other hand, if I have not misunderstood, for a Premise Edge to communicate with the Virtual Edge, the communication is very similar to the one established by an agent using webRTC, therefore, we must comply with the requirements mentioned in the section on Premises Edges, related to WebRTC, is that correct?


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    David Fradejas Tomás
    Sabio Ibérica, S.A.
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