That is interesting, however what about entries that, by your description, score equally? Say I have a John Smith, a John Jones and a John Doe, If I search for "John", it doesn't show me them in creation order. Or alphabetic order. Or any predictable / discernable order.
This is also an issue for our users. When they want to call or transfer a call, they type in a search term (Like John) and the list is presented in what appears (at least to them) to be a random order.
I could certainly build my own UI, but I shouldn't need to for something as simple and fundamental as this. I also draw your attention to my other question thread about the limit on records returned, which make this kind of thing much more complex.
If the system allowed for custom sorts and / or searching on specific fields, it would be much more useful.
Remember a lot of folks (us included) are not using it as a CRM, but simply as a phone book.
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Paul Simpson
Sr. Cloud Partner
AAA Club Alliance Inc.
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Original Message:
Sent: 09-09-2022 09:37
From: Andrew Johnson
Subject: Sorting External Contacts
Hi Paul,
Agreed that "relevance" can mean different things in different contexts. From our full-text search API's point-of-view, a more "relevant" result is one that scores numerically higher in the search results. Example: a contact named "John John Smith" will score higher than "John Smith" in a search for "john" because "john" appears twice in the first contact.
From reading your response, what I am understanding is that trying to maintain, by hand, a phone book with more than 1,000 contacts is difficult because the Genesys Cloud CX UI does not provide a way to simply list *all* of the contacts. This is true -- we only provide a search-based interface today. I definitely suggest submitting that new feature idea to the ideas portal and we can consider it.
It sounds like you would also be able to search on specific fields.
One option you have is to build your own custom UI using the platform APIs. Is that something you might be equipped to do?
If you could have whatever interface you wanted, what would it look like?
Thank you.
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Andrew Johnson
Genesys - Employees
Original Message:
Sent: 09-08-2022 16:01
From: Paul Simpson
Subject: Sorting External Contacts
Thanks to everyone who responded!
"Relevance" is a somewhat vague term, if you don't mind me saying...
Say I go to call a number and enter "John", within the list of External Contacts displayed, I'd like them to be shown alphabetically. There is no way the system can know which "John" is more, or less, relevant than another.
I understand that it is intended to be used as a kind of CRM, however many people are simply using it as a phone book. The particular subset I am currently working on are actually numbers that "loop back" to allow our users to easily call / transfer to flows without having to know / memorize the numbers.
As suggested, I will head over to ideas, but I'm leaving this here for anyone who comes after and finds this thread in a search.
I should also point out that the full-text search, together with the way the UI is structured, and the 1000 contacts returned limit, makes maintaining it a nightmare!
Say I have more than 1000 entries - I have to narrow it down with a search. Unfortunately, if I enter "A", I don't get all those contacts whose names start with an "A", I get everyone with an "A" anywhere in their profile (and so on) so there isn't really a way I can "batch" my search!
Furthermore, as I work through the list, making changes, as I exit each contact, I'm returned the top of to Page 1 of the list! This gets very old, very quickly....
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Paul Simpson
Sr. Cloud Partner
AAA Club Alliance Inc.
Original Message:
Sent: 09-07-2022 23:29
From: Robert Wakefield-Carl
Subject: Sorting External Contacts
Welcome to the world of a digital rolodex (if you are old enough to remember those!) You can scroll forward or backward by and find one by name or org, but that is just about it. Also, you can add lots of information on the cards like we used to write on them, but we don't really have a good way to search or use all that information. Genesys is working on making this more useful, but until then, please don't try to use External Contacts as a CRM.

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Robert Wakefield-Carl
Avtex Solutions, LLC
Contact Center Innovation Architect
https://www.Avtex.com
https://RobertWC.Blogspot.com
Original Message:
Sent: 09-07-2022 17:12
From: Paul Simpson
Subject: Sorting External Contacts
Hello!
OK, so a slightly odd one here...
Does anyone know what criteria are used to sort External Contacts in the UI? Also, is this configurable? They appear to be random...
TIA
#Omni-ChannelDesktop/UserInterface
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Paul Simpson
Sr. Cloud Partner
AAA Club Alliance Inc.
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